Mama Tried | 1974-10-19 | Grateful Dead

View NotesNotes:

This is a fixed version of shnid 139578.

I have now swapped the channels for BIODTL, Loose Lucy, To Lay Me Down, Big Railroad Blues, The Race Is On, Tomorrow Is Forever, Mexicali Blues, Dire Wolf and Sunshine Daydream.

My apologies for the delay I had forgotten all about this

Thanks to Rich Charlie for providing another great source.

SIRMick
January 2018

SOURCE 2 OF 12

3:27:18

SBD

Taper:

provided by Rich Gastwirt

Transferrer:

Charlie Miller and SIRMick

SHNID:

gd1974-10-19.139578.sbd.gastwirt.miller.sirmick.flac16

Source:

Source: sbd > 2nd gen cassette > dat (44.1k) - provided by Rich Gastwirt; Transfer: Transfer: Dat > Panasonic SV-3700 > Tascam DA-3000 > wav 16/44.1 - Transferred by Charlie Miller; Lineage: wav > Adobe Audion 1.5 > iZotope RX6 Advanced > iZotope Ozone 5 Advanced > CD Wave > TLH > Flac 16; edited and mastered SIRMick

Taper Notes:

View Notes- This seems to be derived from the same source as shnid 228 - sbd seeded by D. Finney (rumoured to be a copy of a rough mix cassette made for SYF)
- The channels had been switched so I have corrected that.
- Some transitions cleaned up with crossfades.
- Pitch corrections made.
- "Seastones", "OMSN" and "U.S. Blues" provided by shnid 228.



If I had to choose just one source to keep I think it would have to be this, It sounds so vibrant.

SOURCE 3 OF 12

gd74-10-19.sbd.miller.21927.sbeok.shnf

Source:

Soundboard

Lineage:

SBD -> Reel Master -> Dat Master (Panasonic SV-255/48k) Transfer Info:Dat Master (Sony D8) -> SEK'D Prodif Plus -> Samplitude v7.02 Professional -> Cool Edit Pro v2.0 -> SHN Patch Info:SBD -> Rough Mixes -> Cass -> Reel -> ? -> Dat -> Samplitude -> CD

Taper Notes:

View NotesRecording Info:
SBD -> Reel Master -> Dat Master (Panasonic SV-255/48k)

Transfer Info:
Dat Master (Sony D8) -> SEK'D Prodif Plus -> Samplitude v7.02 Professional -> 
Cool Edit Pro v2.0 -> SHN (3 Discs Audio / 2 Discs SHN)

Patch Info:
SBD -> Rough Mixes -> Cass -> Reel -> ? -> Dat -> Samplitude -> CD -> EAC -> SHN

Transfered and Edited By Charlie Miller
charliemiller87@earthlink.net
1/14/04

SOURCE 4 OF 12

Matt Smith and Will Boswell

SHNID:

gd1974-10-19.131704.sbd.boswell-smith.flac16

Source:

Lineage: 16 track "truck monitor mix" > 2 track mixdown reel > R @ 3 3/4 ips > FLAC; Transfer info: Akai GX636 direct tape head output > Bottlehead tube tape pre w/ a pair of Telefunken tubes circa 1960 > Apogee Mini Me 24/96 > Apogee Mini DAC monitoring and mastering > FLAC; Tranfered October 2014 by Matt Smith

Taper Notes:

View NotesTranfered October 2014 by Matt Smith 
Matt's notes:

Yes I know there are other versions of this but I enjoy this transfer so much I thought I'd share it.  The difference is the Telefunkens in the transfer chain.  This reel was originally dubbed by Wilson in March of 1979.  Long before the Betty Boards so at the time, this and the other shows were quite a score.  I also have recently done traditional transfers with my new Technics RS1506(a big thanks to Adam Aegert!!) that I'm just as happy about so i'll mix it up if you all want more.
Enjoy!!

SOURCE 5 OF 12

gd1974-10-19.131694.sbd.boswell-smith.flac24

Source:

Lineage: 16 track "truck monitor mix" > 2 track mixdown reel > R @ 3 3/4 ips. > FLAC; Transfer info: Akai GX636 direct tape head output > Bottlehead tube tape pre w/ a pair of Telefunken tubes circa 1960 > Apogee Mini Me 24/96 > Apogee Mini DAC monitoring and mastering > FLAC; Tranfered October 2014 by Matt Smith

Taper Notes:

View NotesYes I know there are other versions of this but I enjoy this transfer so much I thought I'd share it.  The difference is the Telefunkens in the transfer chain.  This reel was originally dubbed by Wilson in March of 1979.  Long before the Betty Boards so at the time, this and the other shows were quite a score.  I also have recently done traditional transfers with my new Technics RS1506(a big thanks to Adam Aegert!!) that I'm just as happy about so i'll mix it up if you all want more.
Enjoy!!

SOURCE 6 OF 12

gd1974-10-19.sbd.boswell-smith.116341.flac24

Source:

Lineage:16 track "truck monitor mix">2 track mixdown reel(Garcia's)>R @ 3 3/4 ips.>FLAC</br>Transferred by: Matt Smith

Taper Notes:

View NotesMatt's notes:

This reel is part of the Debbie Stash.  At the time(1979), everybody had copies of these 10/74 shows via Rob Bertrando and Bob so Will basically sat on these copies for 28 years until I got my hands on them.  The mix is different on these vs. the 2 track source so it's all a matter of taste.  As far as creating a feeling of "being there", these capture that.  A fantastic show from start to finish!!

Thanks to jpc3 for tagging

SOURCE 7 OF 12

Jamie Waddell;Jim Blackwood

SHNID:

gd1974-10-19.sbd.set1-partial.bear.gems.116170.flac24

Source:

SBD Reel > cass Recorded by the Immortal Owsley Stanley; cass > 24bit/88.2kHz WAV by Blackwood/Waddell; WAV (shnid 112531) > CD Wave (remove "dead air" and split tracks) > FLAC (24/88) by Tim Keeler

Taper Notes:

View NotesThis is a partial copy of BEAR's 10 19 74 reels.  There are cuts and missing songs, but I am sure the community will enjoy the value of this share.
You are downloading tape side A and tape side B, as transferred by Jim Blackwood in 24 bit 88.2 kHz and presented by Jamie Waddell. Absolutely Untouched.

Much Love to You Know Who You Are and of course safe travels to BEAR as he begins his residency in the cosmos.   May he alter his new home as much as his did his terrestrial one!

a **GEMS** Production    www.shnflac.net   March 15 2011

SOURCE 8 OF 12

gd1974-10-19.sbd-pset1.bear.gems.stevesw.112791.flac16

Source:

reel > cass recorded by Owsley Stanley<br> cass > 24bit/88.2kHz by Blackwood/Waddell<br> dithered/tracked by SteveSw<br>

Taper Notes:

View Notes==========

Note from original seed:

Reel > cass Recorded by the Immortal Owsley Stanley

This is a partial copy of BEAR's 10 19 74 reels.  There are cuts and
missing songs, but I am sure the community will enjoy the value of
this share.  You are downloading tape side A and tape side B, as
transferred by Jim Blackwood in 24 bit 88.2 kHz and presented by Jamie
Waddell. Absolutely Untouched.

Much Love to You Know Who You Are and of course safe travels to BEAR
as he begins his residency in the cosmos.  May he alter his new home
as much as his did his terrestrial one!

a **GEMS** Production    www.shnflac.net   March 15 2011

==========

Processing for this seed: 

  Dithered: Ozone 4 (MBIT+, High, 16, Normal) in Wavelab 6 to 16/44.1

---

  The original source has dead areas between some tracks. I have left
  all between-song noodling in this source when the tracks flowed
  smoothly from one to the next. When there was a stretch of no-signal
  between tracks, and no interesting noodling, I omitted the between-
  track material (including the dead air), and faded the track before
  the dead air (leaving 5-10 seconds of crowd after that song
  ended). Other than this, I made no changes to the original source.

  The source turns out to be most of the first set from 10/19, and
  then the Good Lovin' from 10/20. I have left the filler from 10/20
  as part of this seed because it was part of the original seed.

  Tracked in Wavelab 6

  tape side A:
    00:00-00:10 - [omitted] dead air, then static
    00:10-03:41 - Beat It On Down The Line // (faded at end) 
    03:41-04:28 - [omitted] crowd, then dead air/noise
    04:28-11:04 - It Must Have Been The Roses
    11:04-12:47 - tuning
    12:47-17:10 - El Paso // (faded at end)
    17:10-17:55 - [omitted] crowd, then dead air/noise
    17:55-22:48 - Loose Lucy
    22:48-22:49 - [omitted] dead air
    22:49-30:24 - Black Throated Wind // (abrupt transition)
    30:24-43:43 - Scarlet Begonias
    43:43-43:58 - [omitted] dead air     
 
  tape side B:
    00:00-00:10 - [omitted] dead air
    00:10-08:22 - // To Lay Me Down (split at cut in tuning)
    08:22-10:56 - Mama Tried (split at cut in tuning)
    10:56-21:28 - Eyes Of The World // (abrupt transition)
    21:28-21:29 - [omitted] dead air
    21:29-25:29 - // China Doll (split at cut in tuning)
    25:29-30:15 - Big River    
    30:15-30:16 - [omitted] dead air
    30:16-42:12 - Good Lovin' [from 10/20/74]
    42:12-42:23 - [omitted] dead air

---

  Flac'ed with flac.exe to Level 8
  
---

  Steve Swartz, April 10 2011

==========
  
Contents of Seed:  

74-10-19 Set 1:
  [MISSING]            Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodeloo 
  [MISSING]            Me And My Uncle 
  [MISSING]            Friend Of The Devil 
  gd74-10-19.sat01     Beat It On Down The Line 
  gd74-10-19.sat02     It Must Have Been The Roses 
  gd74-10-19.sat03     tuning
  gd74-10-19.sat04     El Paso 
  gd74-10-19.sat05     Loose Lucy 
  gd74-10-19.sat06     Black Throated Wind 
  gd74-10-19.sat07     Scarlet Begonias 
  gd74-10-19.sbt01     To Lay Me Down 
  gd74-10-19.sbt02     Mama Tried 
  gd74-10-19.sbt03     Eyes Of The World 
  gd74-10-19.sbt04     China Doll 
  gd74-10-19.sbt05     Big River 
  
Filler:
  gd74-10-20.sbt06     Good Lovin' (from 10/20)


==========

SOURCE 9 OF 12

gd1974-10-19.112531.sbd.BEAR.partial.twotapesides.flac24

Source:

24 bit 88.2kHz SBD Reel > cass Recorded by the Immortal Owsley Stanley;

Taper Notes:

View NotesThis is a partial copy of BEAR's 10 19 74 reels.  There are cuts and missing songs, but I am sure the community will enjoy the value of this share.
You are downloading tape side A and tape side B, as transferred by Jim Blackwood in 24 bit 88.2 kHz and presented by Jamie Waddell. Absolutely Untouched.

Much Love to You Know Who You Are and of course safe travels to BEAR as he begins his residency in the cosmos.   May he alter his new home as much as his did his terrestrial one!

a **GEMS** Production    www.shnflac.net   March 15 2011

SOURCE 10 OF 12

gd1974-10-19.sbd.dfinney.228.shnf

Source:

Soundboard

Taper Notes:

View Notes"sbd"
This topic generates large amounts of message traffic on Deadlists. Briefly, the "Wall of Sound" was a fundamentally different type of sound system where each musician adjusted the levels of their own instruments. Owsley Stanley (Bear) claims that there can be no soundboard recordings because there wasn't a soundboard.

During these "retirement" concerts there were apparently many recordings made, some of which were released as "Steal Your Face". There is a rumor that this recording is a copy of a rough mix cassette made for SYF provided to the taping community by Jerry Wexler's son or nephew (or something like that), along with 10.18.74 and 10.20.74.

These shows came from the Frank's Picks tree, round 4
http://frankspicks.org/fp4_Source_tape_info.htm

SOURCE 11 OF 12

gd74-10-19.sbd.fink.227.sbeok.shnf

Source:

Soundboard

Lineage:

SBD multitrack > DAT > CD

Taper Notes:

View NotesSBD multitrack > DAT > CD; via A. Fink, M. Ferguson; known flaw: d3
Beginning of Sugar Magnolia is cut; note some material from show appears
on album Steal Your Face- <a href="http://www.gratefuldead.com" rel="nofollow">go buy
it</a>

SOURCE 12 OF 12

3:01:12

Transferrer:

Transferred by Andrew F. 06/2021

SHNID:

gd1974-10-19.152593.aud.flac1644

Lineage:

Transfer: TDK Audua-90's (normal bias) > Nakamichi CR-5A > Edirol FA-66 > Wavelab 2448 > R8Brain SRC > CD-Wave > TLH > FLAC 1644 tagged.

Taper Notes:

View NotesNote: Here's an AUD of this famous show, but be warned, the
quality varies from decent to terrible, with the final 45
minutes sounding very much the worse for wear. Noted flaws:
- The speed varied radically, and was off by 3.5% to 9.5%,
adjustments were applied, but it remains far from perfect.
- Extensive tape surface noise & hiss, this was EQ'ed a bit.
- Gap in Scarlet Begonias at 4:51, approx 15 seconds missing.
- About half of China Doll is missing, and there is horrible
squealing-tape damage for much of the track, wasn't fixable.
- Most of Big River is marred by tape damage & speed issues.
- Two small gaps in He's Gone; at 4:15 and again at 6:41.
- About one minute missing from the end of Sunshine Daydream.
With thanks to John and Rich Petrunis for sharing their tapes!